Aston Villa v Burnley: Carling Cup Open Thread
Burnley travel to Villa Park for the fourth round of the League Cup. This fixture is one that Aston Villa, by virtue of being in a higher division, should easily win. So why the sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach?
Should Villa wish to advance to the semi-finals of the cup and once again challenge for hardware, they need to do something they haven't done since the sixteenth minute of the Spurs match: score a goal. Ok, that's not quite true. Richard Dunne scored a goal last Saturday, but the problem there is that the goal was counted for Sunderland. So we'll amend that statement: Villa need to score a goal by putting the ball into the opposition's net. Or, I suppose, getting the opposition to flub it and put the ball in their own net. At this point, either way works for me.
Aaron and I discussed the fact that he'd rather see the team lose 4-3 than 1-0. Could we see that today?
Aston Villa Starting XI:Friedel; Lichaj, Cuellar, Clark; Beye; Sidwell, Albrighton, Reo-Coker, Bannan; Ireland, Young, Carew
Reserves:Guzan, Downing, Johnson, Collins, Hogg, Delfouneso, Heskey
Burnley Starting XI:Grant, Mears, Carlisle, Duff, Fox, Alexander, Rodriguez, Marney, Cork, Wallace, Paterson.
Reserves: Jensen, Iwelumo, Elliott, Edgar, Bikey, Easton, Thompson
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Barry!
That is an odd line-up though
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
Not that this matters because the match is unavailable
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 7:40 PM BST up reply actions
Ok I'm doing this via text and twitter. Swell
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 7:43 PM BST reply actions
I was listening to Five Live just a bit ago
I thought I heard them say the game was on one of the BBC radio stations…
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License issues- we get regularly scheduled programming
except cricket, which they do broadcats
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"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Who ever would have thought
1952: At Villa Park, Burnley have made a bright start to proceedings with Jack Cork – on loan from Chelsea – getting on the ball nicely in the early stages. Steve Sidwell has miscued Villa’s best early chance from inside the area.
I am so glad I can't watch this
1954: It looks, by the way, that Steve Sidwell of all people has been tasked with supporting Villa’s lone striker Ashley Young against Burnley – though it’s early days yet.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 27, 2010 7:57 PM BST up reply actions
Ummm....so the Villa website is telling me kickoff is 4 hours away...
Interesting.
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
Stephen Ireland taking the role of Petrov and offering shots from 25 yards
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 8:02 PM BST reply actions
This is worse
Well I’ve seen some sitters missed this season – and this is right up there with the worst. Ashley Young dashes on to Stephen Ireland’s through-ball and squares for Nigel Reo-Coker, but the Villa captain aims his tap-in straight at Burnley keeper Lee Grant who gratefully pushes the shot away.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 8:11 PM BST up reply actions
Yeah, could be worse
2012: Our BBC London commentator reckons “there’s very little sign West Ham have a coherent plan to rescue this match” – which is a bit worrying for Hammers fans, to say the least.
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
Well, this match has robbed gamecast of its will to live
no updates…
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Who owns the US rights to this?
ESPN?
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Can anyone, if there's not an English broadcast?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 8:23 PM BST up reply actions
there's a live video tab on soccernet...
I assumed they own the rights on the other side of the lake.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
I think Sky owns the UK rights to the Carling Cup
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
Which would make me think if anyone could broadcast it would be FSC
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 8:30 PM BST up reply actions
Which, by the way, is showing Chelsea v Wolves today
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 8:31 PM BST up reply actions
MURDOCH!!!
I swear the level of professionalism exhibited by FSC is on par with the DRC’s
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Which makes the fact that ESPN3 has last years semis and finals doubly weird.
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
strange that they would ESPN would offer live video to English customers then.
Also, because I have TWC and they haven’t got their shit together, I can’t find out whether or not it’s on in the US
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
I'm not sure if it means they're showing it over there or not...
An option for “Watch Live” will occasionally show up on really random games throughout the season.
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
I dunno- I'd have to ask my parents who live there
or find out when I go there for Winter break. The region coding on Espn3 is pretty strong- they always kick you to the US site
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Arsenal goal: What a Krul end to the half that is. Arsenal pinch the lead on the stroke of half-time as Nicklas Bendtner’s header causes panic in the Newcastle box, the ball finally trickling over the line when Ryan Taylor’s goalline clearance comes off the back of keeper Tim Krul’s head.
What a Krul sport….
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
I would need to see video, but 4-1-5 isn't exactly new territory for houllier
he did something similar at Lyon with great success
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
So, four in defense, one holding, three attacking mids and two wings?
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 27, 2010 8:42 PM BST up reply actions
it shapes up like this in a 3-2-5
it’s 3-1-1-3-2 where the two midfielders hold and rarely get high up the pitch, and foul if the play threatens to get behind them. the next three are more traditional attacking mids, who press up the pitch across the top of the box or look for the through ball, and the top two generally stack up and move around a lot in the middle. It’s a nervy formation that possesses the ball a great deal in the opponent half and forces the back line to make bad choices if done right. If done wrong, well, the other team gets their chances.
There’s a couple different ways to run the formation, that’s just one.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
BBC... is English
where if it isn’t 4-4-2. it isn’t sporting is it. You might as well shoot the noble English sweeper with a rifle at that point
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
by Londonjoe on Oct 27, 2010 8:44 PM BST up reply actions 1 recs
more a 3-2-5 in France
you can try it against a Burnley who more likely than not are just going to hunker down and counter
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
HOw many minutes has it been now? 300 yet?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 8:52 PM BST reply actions
Arsenal just scored again and Steve Sidwell needs to grow
Steve Sidwell races into the box to get on the end of Eric Lichaj’s cross but it skims off his head and out for a goal-kick – if he’d been a couple of inches taller, that could’ve been the opener at Villa Park.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 8:59 PM BST reply actions
Beye= useless
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
This opinion of mine never changes
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 9:05 PM BST up reply actions
being abused by Jay Rodriguez
I had a flash of hope he was American… nope
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Fabregas coming on for Arsenal?
Guess Wenger wasn’t just whistling whatever the French equivalent of Dixie would be about winning silverware.
do they really need him on now? I think he's still hurt and they're easing him back in.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
That's the only thing I could think
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 9:21 PM BST up reply actions
maybe he's just overrated
That’s right, you heard me irrational arsenal fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
freekick taken by habib Beye
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Like BABIP
there’s a certain amount of luck involved.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
There is.
But we also appear to have a bunch of slow ground ball hitters leading the attack.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 27, 2010 9:28 PM BST up reply actions
works for Victorino
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
They also wear Claret and Blue, Matt
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 9:28 PM BST up reply actions
I was just about to.
Matt, please take the lead in commenting next match
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 9:30 PM BST up reply actions
That must be why Hitzsperger signed with them...
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
well, Bendtner scores another meaningless goal
again
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Who are you and what have you done with Emile Heskey?!?
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
who's fault?
/sharpens pitchfork /readies torch
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
IT BURNS!
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
it burns less now.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Ok everyone...whatever you did after the last time you scored...
Don’t do it again.
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
Elfboy got a RED?
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
its the hair
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Yeah....thy originally said it was in the chat on the AVFC website and I almost threw up.
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
I guess he doesn't like Peter Gabriel....
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
Do you want me to find out his favorite music?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 27, 2010 10:05 PM BST up reply actions
Well, he'll have time on Sunday and I will still be stationed outside his house.
I’ll figure it out.
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.
Jay rodriguez is looking likely
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
apparently the carling cup is on fox soccer plus? I know DTV subscribers get it.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
It is, but they picked up Arsenal-Newcastle today
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 27, 2010 9:57 PM BST up reply actions
which is logical
The top rated match on FS+? what a novel idea. They never put the big match on FS+ and put wolves WBA on FSC
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
I think the programming director must work with the same manattee tank that the Family guy team does
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Cuellar deserves a cookie and a roster spot for sure
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Bald Ginger comes on for Crap Ginger
I would totally stand outside Marc Albrighton's house playing Peter Gabriel music.

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