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World Cup Open Thread, June 17th 2010

CAPE TOWN, SOUTH AFRICA - This is a metaphor. (Photo by Lars Baron/Getty Images)

Argentina - South Korea, 4:30 AM PDT/7:30 AM EDT/12:30 GMT

Greece - Nigeria, 7:00 AM PDT/10:00 AM EDT/15:00 GMT

France - Mexico, 11:30 AM PDT/2:30 PM EDT/19:30 GMT

Two very big matches bookending things today. If there is a winner between Argentina and South Korea, that side will be through to the quarterfinals; a draw will put both teams in good shape going into the final match of the group stage. Nigeria and Greece are playing for their lives. Uruguay put themselves in a very safe position by scoring three goals against South Africa; if one of France or Mexico are able to pick up three points Group A is all but decided. Lots on the line this morning.

Star-divide

Argentina should most likely be viewed as favorites, but South Korea cannot be written off; they aren't much for defending, but their attack is one of the more relentless you will ever see. If they can prevent Argentina from scoring early and bunkering down, they have a real shot to emerge with a good result. Still, Lionel Messi is on the pitch at the same time as South Korea's defense, so while I'm not willing to write them off completely, think could get realy ugly real fast.

While Greece looked as bad as any other team in the tournament in their opener, it is unlikely that their performance is indicative of their actual level of talent. With that being said, their actual level of talent isn't really relevant if the same team that went down to South Korea shows up today. Nigeria might have emerged from their match with Argentina without a point, but they gave a superior opponent about all they could handle and impressed many in doing so. Nigeria probably have the edge coming into this one but it wouldn't be a huge surprise if Greece improve upon their earlier effort and emerge with their chances of advancing intact.

France and Mexico are easily two of the most hate-able teams in the world for surprisingly similar reasons. I honestly cannot think of a reason to pull for one team over the other and I for one am hoping every single player on the pitch (keepers included) are sent off for diving and both teams are awarded zero points for this match and forced to forfeit their last. That seems kind of unlikely though. Anyways, France should probably win and from an objective standpoint it ought to be fairly entertaining.

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Early card to SK

And I’m sorry but I didn’t have my handy world cup match reference cards ready to cut and paste, so who it was has slipped my mind.
Oh, Yeom says Stevo on my twitter

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 17, 2010 12:41 PM BST reply actions  

Some kind of injury?

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 12:55 PM BST up reply actions  

What a blast from Tevez

And yes even though he’s played for two Manchester clubs I still love him!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 12:58 PM BST reply actions  

Poor defending there

Are Real Madrid really going to get rid of Higuain?!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:02 PM BST reply actions  

Announcer error

South American nations have conceded two goals at this tournament. Paraguay conceded 1 (admittedly shouldn’t have) against Italy.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:08 PM BST reply actions  

Heck of a save there

The more I see of Di Maria, the less I want to see him at Eastlands!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:09 PM BST reply actions  

The last I heard they were still trying

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:10 PM BST up reply actions  

With their academy that won't be a problem

Weiss, Ireland (if they keep him) for starters, Onuoha (if they keep him)

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:13 PM BST up reply actions  

Yeah its development by your club

For instance under the proposed rule, Fabregas would qualify as home-grown for Arsenal

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM BST up reply actions  

Great save.

Korea seems to want to defend the 6 yard box, but is willing to allow shots from 7-10 yards. Bend but don’t break!

by marc w on Jun 17, 2010 1:10 PM BST reply actions  

Messidona

Now that would’ve been some goal

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:14 PM BST reply actions  

What a mistake and Lee Chung Young, excellent finish!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM BST reply actions  

I wish I had said this before the goal

But Lee Chung-Yong is one of the best buys Gary Megson ever made in the transfer market.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:21 PM BST up reply actions  

Bringing it back, South Korea

Not the best keeping from Argentina. And perhaps having defenders is a good idea.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM BST reply actions  

What a sickener for Argentina

As far as I was concerned they’ve played the best half of football in this tournament, but only 2-1 up!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:17 PM BST up reply actions  

More praise for ESPN

You can never go wrong with excited Korean commentators

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:24 PM BST up reply actions  

Of course

We are lucky, apparently all the BBC summarisers are horrific.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:37 PM BST up reply actions  

Why doesn't anyone ever introduce

John Harkes as former USA International and world class tramp?

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:33 PM BST reply actions  

Or as the guy that ruined World Cup 98 for us

Since he got himself dropped for nailing a teammate’s wife!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:37 PM BST up reply actions  

Gutierrez yellow

No Spiderman against Greece (not that it matters)

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:42 PM BST reply actions  

Lordy that should've been 2-2

Korea finally starting to make an impression in this match

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 1:45 PM BST reply actions  

HOLY CRAP. Univision called that GOOOOL

But then again it wasn’t GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL so I should’ve known better

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 17, 2010 1:45 PM BST reply actions  

Tevez off, Aguero on

If only we all could have a bench like that

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 2:03 PM BST reply actions  

Brilliant from Messi

And Higuain scores again!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 2:04 PM BST reply actions  

What's the price on Mascherano getting his second yellow now

So he can miss the meaningless game against Greece

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 2:07 PM BST reply actions  

What a goal

Higuain a Golden Boot favorite now!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 2:08 PM BST reply actions  

Kanu!

He’s been around a long time. What a player!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 2:41 PM BST reply actions  

Possible

Nigeria could get away with a draw here because if they can beat Korea they are through. Although they really should try to win the match because they would be in the catbird seat then.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 2:51 PM BST up reply actions  

Funny to see Otto Rehangel on the bench there

And realize he’s been the Greece coach for 9 years now (I think?). Extraordinary in these times. I suppose if Greece get 0 or 1 point at this tournament then that will be it for him.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 3:09 PM BST reply actions  

I don't think that was touched on the way in

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 3:17 PM BST reply actions  

If it stays like that . . .

then Korea has to win the final match

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 3:18 PM BST reply actions  

Samaras on too

This qualifies as adventurous and going for it for Otto Rehangel

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 3:39 PM BST reply actions  

Well this game will be interesting now

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 3:42 PM BST reply actions  

Off the line!

The Koreans must be watching this match and going mad!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 3:43 PM BST reply actions  

because they if Greece can score

Korea will be in great shape to get the runnerup spot AND THEY HAVE!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 3:46 PM BST up reply actions  

Sorry, I was referring to the goal.

I was temporarily rendered incapable of capitalization or context.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 17, 2010 3:47 PM BST up reply actions  

I think Salpigidis is confused too.

Unless I read that name wrong and if so, he is confused as to why I am giving him goal credit

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 17, 2010 3:47 PM BST up reply actions  

Greece has got to go for the win

So yes, there should be counter attack opportunities for the pacey Nigerians

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 3:50 PM BST up reply actions  

Oh my God miss of the World Cup

How did Obasi not tap that in?!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 4:19 PM BST reply actions  

WHAT A SAVE ENEYAMA!

BRILLIANT!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 4:28 PM BST reply actions  

Torosidis!

Who of course I benched or got rid of from my fantasy team after the first match!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 4:31 PM BST reply actions  

Gekas leaves, Ninis comes on.

I’d rather trade a 20-letter name for a short one rather than a direct 5-letter swap

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 17, 2010 4:39 PM BST reply actions  

What a rollercoaster

And now Korea have it pretty easy to go through. As long as they don’t get beat against Nigeria they should go through (unless somehow Greece gets a result against Argentina).

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 4:55 PM BST up reply actions  

I picked a draw for this

but seeing as I had Uruguay and Mexico going through, a Mexican win would suit me fine!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 7:24 PM BST reply actions  

Veteran grit!
Mexico coach Javier Aguirre:

“It’s a job for the most experienced to drive the youngsters and to be a link between the players and the coach. For this reason the captain against France is going to be Rafa Marquez. We will play the match as if it is our last.”

by Eyeball Kid on Jun 17, 2010 7:31 PM BST up reply actions  

Contrast that with Domenech

Who probably consulted astrology signs before giving his team talk

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 7:32 PM BST up reply actions  

Wonder what odds you could've got

on France scoring no goals at this World Cup

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 7:37 PM BST reply actions  

Oh Vela!

You have to do better than that!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 7:38 PM BST reply actions  

Perez

Perez started for the warm-ups, so it was not a surprise. But Ochoa is just all over the place marketing-wise. I wonder if Ochoa would prefer a starting place in the WC over the sponsorship pesos? prolly, the latter since he is the heir apparent for future WC campaigns…

by Pablo Mercado on Jun 17, 2010 7:53 PM BST up reply actions  

it will be hard for anyone to top

Sagna’s bicycle clearance against Villa at Villa Park in in 08-09 season

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 8:13 PM BST up reply actions  

Juarez got lucky there

That was a really stupid thing to do.

by Eyeball Kid on Jun 17, 2010 8:35 PM BST reply actions  

Quick question on the yellows

if a player receives two yellow cards over two games, does he get sent off for the second game? Or is he just suspended from the team’s next game?

by seattlebruin on Jun 17, 2010 8:41 PM BST reply actions  

suspended for the third

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 8:42 PM BST up reply actions  

He is sent off for the next game but he doesn't have to leave this game.

Unlike when getting two yellows in one game when you leave the current one and have to sit the next one

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 17, 2010 8:42 PM BST up reply actions  

The loathesome Blanco is on now!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 8:48 PM BST reply actions  

I will die of laughter

to hear the French complain about dodgy refereeing for a goal!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 8:55 PM BST reply actions  

Oh Domenech is a dope

The French were crap at the Euros and he should’ve been gone then. If they had Guus Hiddink, the French could win this tournament.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 8:57 PM BST up reply actions  

PENALTY!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 9:04 PM BST reply actions  

penalty

el viejito is going to take it!

by Pablo Mercado on Jun 17, 2010 9:04 PM BST reply actions  

To the Raymond Domenech and the French I sing

Irene, Bon Soir! Irene, Bon Soir!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 9:05 PM BST reply actions   1 recs

Now I draw the line I that

Nothing wonderful about him. But that was a real good penalty!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2010 9:06 PM BST up reply actions  

Also hahahaha:
France, who needed a helping hand to get into the tournament, now need a helping hand to get out of the group.

by Eyeball Kid on Jun 17, 2010 9:22 PM BST reply actions   1 recs

Fun facts!
“Pizza Hut Dublin outlet have had to hand out 700 free pizzas tonight. They were giving 350 free pizzas for any World Cup goal against France…
Only Cameron’s Roger Milla (1994) and Sweden’s Gunnar Gren (1958) are older goalscorers than Cuauhtemoc Blanco in the World Cup."

by Eyeball Kid on Jun 17, 2010 9:40 PM BST reply actions  

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