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Open World Cup Thread, June 24th 2010

Slovakia - Italy, 7:00 AM PDT/10:00 AM EDT/15:00 GMT

Paraguay - New Zealand, 7:00 AM PDT/10:00 AM EDT/15:00 GMT

Denmark - Japan, 11:30 AM PDT/2:30 PM EDT/19:30 GMT

Cameroon - Netherlands, 11:30 AM PDT/2:30 PM EDT/19:30 GMT

Last day for Groups E and F. Netherlands are through from Group E and Denmark must win to advance as they are one goal behind Japan on differential.

Everyone is still technically in it in Group F. Slovakia must beat Italy and hope for a Paraguay win or draw between Paraguay and New Zealand. New Zealand and Italy are in exactly the same situation; two points and no goals between them. I personally am hoping for victories by Paraguay and New Zealand by margins sufficient enough to send both of them through. I am also hoping for the fully paid deed to a 25th floor penthouse condo with views of downtown Seattle, the Sound, Lake Washington, the Olympics and the Cascades.

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Go Paraguay and Denmark today

I expect Italy to win to finish second (though I will be rooting for Slovakia to knock them out). And I expect Netherlands to get a result to win the group.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 2:40 PM BST reply actions  

Ouch!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 2:59 PM BST up reply actions  

New Zealand could win the group?

If they win and Italy draws

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 3:01 PM BST reply actions  

If they have to draw lots

Is that done in front of cameras so everyone can see that it’s kosher?

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 3:04 PM BST reply actions  

And because it was such a story yesterday

Isner-Mahut resumes in 20 minutes

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 3:11 PM BST reply actions  

Great run by Valdez down the sideline for Paraguay

Beat two defenders and kept the ball in then wasted it by blasting nowhere near the goalkeeper.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 3:17 PM BST reply actions  

GOOOOLLLLLLLLLL SLLLLOOOVVAAAKKKIIIIAAA

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 3:24 PM BST reply actions  

What a horrendous pass that was!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 3:27 PM BST up reply actions  

neato!

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Jun 24, 2010 3:25 PM BST reply actions  

Scoreless at halftime of NZL-PAR

Kiwis must score if they are to advance. Ruh-roh.

by Nick S on Jun 24, 2010 3:48 PM BST reply actions  

Hopefully Isner can win this during the halftime

A

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 3:51 PM BST reply actions  

Dammit Isner, I can only watch 1 of these matches if you don't win!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 4:02 PM BST up reply actions  

AAAAAAAAH

Paston with a save, rebound shot gets deflected out, Paraguay somehow don’t score

by Nick S on Jun 24, 2010 4:21 PM BST reply actions  

kinda think it was in… but am happier with the noncall.

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Jun 24, 2010 4:26 PM BST reply actions  

Italy equalizing

Wouldn’t keep Paraguay off the top of the group. Only Italy leading or New Zealand scoring can do that.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 4:29 PM BST up reply actions  

Aha

Didn’t have my heart in it anyway. NZ just needs to score but they are hardly threatening.

by lemonverbena on Jun 24, 2010 4:31 PM BST up reply actions  

Wow

I knew Italy would not do well, but possibly last in the group. Wow!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 4:33 PM BST up reply actions  

Oh my Lord

great save Paston and the Paraguayan player couldn’t corral the rebound

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 4:34 PM BST reply actions  

what the hell’s going on in the net?

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Jun 24, 2010 4:40 PM BST reply actions  

DIRTY FUCKING ITALIANS!

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Jun 24, 2010 4:41 PM BST reply actions  

i mean cheaters on this team. nothing racial if it sounds like that…

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Jun 24, 2010 4:42 PM BST up reply actions  

Very happy with apparent result but

ESPN should be embarrassed with themselves over their “analysis” of Italy offsides call. How you decided the Dempsey call was bad, but this was good takes some serious delusion. They were almost the exact same situations. Still, I’m glad it turned out this way.

Because if it's not Love | Then it's the bomb ... | That will bring us together

by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 24, 2010 4:48 PM BST reply actions  

ISNER WINS!

70-68!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 4:48 PM BST reply actions  

USA USA USA

Americans take all the time they need!

by lemonverbena on Jun 24, 2010 4:49 PM BST up reply actions  

I can't get over how wrong that looks

No matter how much I know about that result, 70-68 just seems impossible. Like a baseball game ending in triple-digits.

Because if it's not Love | Then it's the bomb ... | That will bring us together

by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 24, 2010 4:49 PM BST up reply actions  

that was beauty.

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Jun 24, 2010 4:48 PM BST reply actions  

If New Zealand scores

Could Paragauy be out on goals scored?

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 4:50 PM BST up reply actions  

What a good chance for 3-3

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 4:53 PM BST reply actions  

Slovakia does it!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 4:55 PM BST reply actions  

Holy crap what happened at the end of that match?

Itlay finished last in their group though so. FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Up yours Italy!

by Sec 108 on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM BST reply actions  

Announcer: sad ending for Fabio Cannavaro

Not for the rest of us!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM BST up reply actions  

he doesn’t look sad enough for my taste.

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM BST up reply actions  

I'm going to have to show my bias here

During the NZ-SVK game, everyone talked about what a shock it was. Which, ok, the goal kind of was. During the NZ-ITA game, everyone talked about how terrible Italy was. At the end of the NZ-PAR game, the announcers were talking about how poorly Paraguay showed and how negatively they played.

There’s one common link in those three games. And it wasn’t just luck. New Zealand put on a show of how to defend against better teams. They covered for each other, they worked in unison together, they didn’t yell at each other. That was a fucking team, and they deserved each of those three points they picked up.

by Nick S on Jun 24, 2010 5:02 PM BST reply actions  

a more parallel example might be argentine basketball vs US baseketball, 2004.

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Jun 24, 2010 6:53 PM BST up reply actions  

A fair comparison

but I was more aiming at that the 2008 US squad was put together much better than the 2004 one, despite the teams having similar talent levels

by seattlebruin on Jun 24, 2010 7:58 PM BST up reply actions  

I feel the same way about Algeria.

I get that people don’t like to watch defensive minded teams, but eventually they are going to have to accept that just because teams play a style they don’t like as much doesn’t mean they aren’t legitimately good teams.

You’d think Jose Mourinho would be enough to convince people of this, but apparently not. Too bad I hate his ass now.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 24, 2010 5:05 PM BST up reply actions  

But to be fair

The Kiwi goal led a charmed life in the Paraguay match and the Italian match. They defended very well, but they had some serious fortune in both matches.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 5:07 PM BST up reply actions  

I'll just offer this

It doesn’t bother me one bit to see teams like NZ and ALG tying teams in knots with solid defending. It does drive me crazy to see a team like Italy play as defensively as it usually does. Obviously, they have the talent to play a more entertaining style and it drives me crazy that they choose not to until backed against a wall. I think solid team play is a great way for smaller, less skilled countries to go about taking down giants.

Because if it's not Love | Then it's the bomb ... | That will bring us together

by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 24, 2010 5:09 PM BST up reply actions  

I guess I understand the sentiment

but it’s not like the style Italy play is a recent development; Catenaccio has been around since the 60s. I can’t bring myself to be critical of Italy (or Serie A clubs for that matter) for playing the way they do because they’ve been doing it for half a century. Even if I don’t like it.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 24, 2010 5:19 PM BST up reply actions  

I think that they've done it for so long bothers me even more

They’ve always had talented players and just see winning as the only worthwhile goal (as opposed to being entertaining from time to time). I certainly appreciate that sentiment, but that doesn’t mean I like it.

Because if it's not Love | Then it's the bomb ... | That will bring us together

by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 24, 2010 6:45 PM BST up reply actions  

I think that we are functionally in agreement.

I don’t like the way they play either, and it’s why I cheer against the Italians in international competitions and watch far less Seria A than any other major league. At the same time, they’ve had so much success with it that I can’t blame them for playing the way they do, which I would imagine is where our opinions diverge.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 24, 2010 8:46 PM BST up reply actions  

Ian Darke thought Algeria was content with the draw and that it was "very negative"

If they really were happy to take a draw just to deny advancement to the US, then that is cynical. But I thought they played solid defense and looked for chances in transition. I had no problem with their play (other than the late cheap shot to Dempsey’s face).

by lemonverbena on Jun 24, 2010 5:45 PM BST up reply actions  

Thank God for ESPN3

Or I would have no World Cup because my sister is watching Grey’s Anatomy. Come on Denmark!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 7:37 PM BST reply actions  

Be careful

Sorenson’s had a pretty good couple of years at the Potters and has been rumoured to be a Bayern Munich target.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 7:44 PM BST up reply actions  

Ooooohhhhhh

and Japan should’ve been ahead!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 7:43 PM BST reply actions  

Thomassonnnn!!!

Oh man that was close!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 7:44 PM BST reply actions  

Holy crap what a goal Honda

Can Denmark overcome surrendering the opening goal again. They need 2 to go through now.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 7:48 PM BST reply actions  

For the quality of those two free kicks

the Japanese deserve to go through. Endo and Honda! Goodness!

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 8:01 PM BST reply actions  

Japan is slaughtering Denmark

The Danes need hafltime very badly

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 8:14 PM BST reply actions  

Oh Lord Sorenson

nearly made you look a profit. Let a high ball slip through his fingers and was saved by the post. Sweet Jesus

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 8:36 PM BST reply actions  

So close for Denmark

Great work by Hasebe and Kawashima and Thomasson spurns another great chance.

"I say he does have to shoot me now! So shoot me now!" --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 24, 2010 8:40 PM BST reply actions  

HUP HOLLAND HUP!!!

Gorgeous cross from Sjneider, Robben fires from way out, hits the post and then Huntelaar puts it in

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 24, 2010 9:10 PM BST reply actions  

can't help but feel happy for japan

Because if it's not Love | Then it's the bomb ... | That will bring us together

by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 24, 2010 9:15 PM BST reply actions  

Only goal they allowed

came off a saved pk that denmark really didn’t deserve. i think they’ve looked great.

Because if it's not Love | Then it's the bomb ... | That will bring us together

by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 24, 2010 9:18 PM BST up reply actions  

I love the way this is shaping up

Can’t say there’s a team I openly dislike, or even really uninteresting to me, moving on. Lots of intriguing possibilities.

Because if it's not Love | Then it's the bomb ... | That will bring us together

by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 24, 2010 9:23 PM BST reply actions  

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